Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 1250, Issue 2 - O'HAGAN
For Robin Dennis and Linly Hooper -
I saw your recent posts mentioning O'Hagans. I see this surname so infrequently, that I can't imagine we are not connected somehow. There must have been a lot of priests and nuns in the family - so very few descendants now!
I've got a Charles O'Hagan coming to the US through Philadelphia in 1841, quickly marrying a Susan Murray Higgins - a widow with 2 very young daughters, at least one of whom was born in Ireland - and then moving to Cambria County, Pennsylvania, where they had 5 more children. I cannot make a jump back to Ireland to a specific spot, but I think I've narrowed it down to somewhere between Tobermore and Keenaught, which are in southeast County Derry and maybe 20 miles from Cookstown in County Tyrone.
I found a Charles and Bernard O'Hagan both listed as farming the same acreage in the 1828 Tithe Applotment Record - seems promising as Charles named his US-born son Bernard - so likely a father/son on the farm?
Also, The Ordinance Survey Memoirs for County Derry, in describing the area around Tobermore in 1836, states the only known members of the O'Hagan family are five farmers and the Rev. Edward O'Hagan, parish priest at Drumachose. The five farmers in the Tithe Applotments are Charles, Bernard, John, and two different James Hagan (no O' prefix) in Keenaught.
The births, marriages and deaths for Desertmartin and Kilcronaghan Parishes 1848-1880 show many Hagan/O'Hagan listings, likely at Old St. Patrick's RC Church.
There is also a remnant of the 1831 census showing a Charles O'Hagan family on Main St. in Tobermore, with a Bernard Murray family living two doors away.
Does any of this sound even vaguely familiar?
Thanks for reading -
Kelly O'Hagan Rosendale
On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 03:30:25 AM EDT, cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com <cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
1. Re: Inquiry-McKenna and Conroy (Shirley Harper)
2. O'Hagans from Tyrone (Linley Hooper)
From: robin dennis via CoTyroneList
Sent: Monday, 10 April 2023 11:03 PM
To: Elwyn Soutter; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
Cc: robin dennis
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Inquiry-McKenna and Conroy
p.s. If anyone ever has the gumption to help me with my Hagan / O'Hagan ancestors in county Tyrone, I'd love it -- but as they emigrated to the US between 1838 and 1843, I think I have to accept defeat beyond what I've pieced together with some DNA matches.
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Robin Dennis
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Hi RobinI found my Australian Hagans after a circuitous route, in Termonmaguirk in the 1840s and they had US siblings/cousins - would like to share notes...Linley
Hi I noticed the reference to the name O'Hagan and McKenna. I'm directly descended from a James Bernard O'Hagan born about 1829 from Bannvale near Rostrevor County Down. His father was a Bernard O'Hagan possibly from County Tyrone and was a farmer. They were Roman Catholic and have been and still are very difficult to trace.My James eventually settled in Liverpool and was a school master. He married a Mary Ann Carney/McCarney in 1852 and she was somehow related to a McKenna family that came from Beltany County Tyrone. I have had no luck so far in finding the missing link that reveals the connection.So far I've found some O'Hagan siblings their names being Arthur, John, Hugh and Mary. Arthur O'Hagan has a son named Charles.The name gets changed at times from O'Hagan to Hagan which makes research difficult. There are a number of O'Hagan families in County Down.
Don't know if any of this is of any use. Hope it's of some interest.
Helena On Friday, 14 April 2023 at 14:24:59 BST, kelly rosendale via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
For Robin Dennis and Linly Hooper -
I saw your recent posts mentioning O'Hagans. I see this surname so infrequently, that I can't imagine we are not connected somehow. There must have been a lot of priests and nuns in the family - so very few descendants now!
I've got a Charles O'Hagan coming to the US through Philadelphia in 1841, quickly marrying a Susan Murray Higgins - a widow with 2 very young daughters, at least one of whom was born in Ireland - and then moving to Cambria County, Pennsylvania, where they had 5 more children. I cannot make a jump back to Ireland to a specific spot, but I think I've narrowed it down to somewhere between Tobermore and Keenaught, which are in southeast County Derry and maybe 20 miles from Cookstown in County Tyrone.
I found a Charles and Bernard O'Hagan both listed as farming the same acreage in the 1828 Tithe Applotment Record - seems promising as Charles named his US-born son Bernard - so likely a father/son on the farm?
Also, The Ordinance Survey Memoirs for County Derry, in describing the area around Tobermore in 1836, states the only known members of the O'Hagan family are five farmers and the Rev. Edward O'Hagan, parish priest at Drumachose. The five farmers in the Tithe Applotments are Charles, Bernard, John, and two different James Hagan (no O' prefix) in Keenaught.
The births, marriages and deaths for Desertmartin and Kilcronaghan Parishes 1848-1880 show many Hagan/O'Hagan listings, likely at Old St. Patrick's RC Church.
There is also a remnant of the 1831 census showing a Charles O'Hagan family on Main St. in Tobermore, with a Bernard Murray family living two doors away.
Does any of this sound even vaguely familiar?
Thanks for reading -
Kelly O'Hagan Rosendale
On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 03:30:25 AM EDT, cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com <cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
1. Re: Inquiry-McKenna and Conroy (Shirley Harper)
2. O'Hagans from Tyrone (Linley Hooper)
From: robin dennis via CoTyroneList
Sent: Monday, 10 April 2023 11:03 PM
To: Elwyn Soutter; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
Cc: robin dennis
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Inquiry-McKenna and Conroy
p.s. If anyone ever has the gumption to help me with my Hagan / O'Hagan ancestors in county Tyrone, I'd love it -- but as they emigrated to the US between 1838 and 1843, I think I have to accept defeat beyond what I've pieced together with some DNA matches.
................................................
Robin Dennis
+44 (0)20.8123.3960 phone
+44 (0)7947.589.050 mobile
+1 718.303.2080 US skype voip
Hi RobinI found my Australian Hagans after a circuitous route, in Termonmaguirk in the 1840s and they had US siblings/cousins - would like to share notes...Linley
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